Posts by Las Malvinas son Argentinas

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Another livestream mocking him would be great.

I just want this whole "dating a sex worker in Thailand" bullshit to be exposed. He's lying and it's all there. He's also basing his claim of defamation on what he deems as your lies. Have someone do pre-show prep with clips of the more outrageous and funny portions of the livestream ready. He pushed aside the question of sex workers in Thailand and immediately went to his "2-3 months over 3-4 years", providing no clarity other than he did see them. Then pivot to the 3 February FB post 3b and 3c where he specifically says he met sex workers (plural) in Thailand, all of them were in their 20s, and the girl on pic is NOT a SW - making a total of at least three "women" he has seen in Thailand and has NOT paid for sex. It's simply ridiculous he had contact with 3 SWs in Thailand, one of whom he claimed to date romantically, and paid not one of them for sex. After that, the Andrew Gold interview where he denies he paid SWs in Thailand, only that he dated one and his only admission to SWs was in Croatia and "other countries". There are also several tweets like the one last week where he admitted to paying for dinner with the SW he dated, nothing else.

If you need screenshots and video links, let me know. I can help.

Also helpful if you want to fund for The Exodus Road, have a watermark on the livestream that specially states all superchats will be donated to them. You might also want to tip them off that you are funding for them and explain the situation. They might retweet you for more exposure.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Did the state (Arizona or New Mexico i think) come down on them so they changed the form, or did somebody see what was wrong and fix it?

It was Arizona. A forum poster named fizzywiglet called the relevant Arizona authorities and got some info regarding whether using a pseudonym on incorporation documents was illegal - it was. She posted her results here. As for what prompted AAWA to remove “John Cedars” from these documents, it is best known to them (or “him” I should say). JLE was already out as president after starting fights and then playing the victim. He wasn’t long for that work anyway as donations and support had dried up and it was clear he wasn’t getting anything from AAWA other than plane tickets to Tucson.

I’d reckon they saw what was posted on here and when JLE resigned it was a matter of housekeeping to get him off and end that particular controversy.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

It’s nearly the anniversary of “Lloydgate” 31 January….what’s everyone doing? What should the M7 do?

Since we’re talking about Superchats, do a livestream and donate ALL Superchats to The Exodus Road:

https://theexodusroad.com/

Whether you raise $20 or $2000, it will always be $1, €1, £1 more than anything he gave to an anti sex trafficking charity. Or any charity other than himself for that matter.

Provide receipts after the donation is made.

This isn’t about bringing down a grifter. It’s about bringing awareness to a human trafficking problem that this fat and disgusting sack of shit has reduced to playing the victim.

Idk. Up to you really.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

What's funny is that the best way to give Lloyd "financial counseling" is here on this forum

And why shouldn’t he take it, it’s been sound advice for years. I was one of the few who thought it was illegal to sign incorporating documents at AAWA as “John Cedars”. When Dick Kelly cuts him a cheque, will it be to James Lloyd Evans or John Cedars? Then he resigns and AAWA pulls a 180 and issues a statement that all officers of the company must be listed under their full legal names. Uhm, you’re welcome?

We also told him here the lawsuit was a horrible idea and a Croatian municipal court is not going to serve foreign nationals for the crime of making commentary on his livestream and other public statements. But we were “cedars-bashers” so what did we know.

Everyone here was of the opinion that he stop stirring the pot and go into further details as to how he dated a hooker in Thailand. Just last week he was telling a cockatiel that the only money he spent on his “date” was buying her dinner.

What a dolt.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Even if he “shut down” last week, the grift is never really over. He keeps his channel up, his Patreon open for the remaining boneheads willing to pay him and probably looks to hand over his website and YT channel over to someone as an unpaid host. He has attempted this before when he handed over JWSurvey to Covert Fade and O’Donnell. He still listed himself as “Senior Editor” when he really didn’t do much.

Lloyd Evans is like herpes. Even when you thought you had him under control he comes right on back to just say “hey”.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Disgusting that he received $40,000 last year just on SUPERCHATS alone!

$40,183 is for the entirety of the JC/LE channel since it was started in 2012. Look directly to the right of that stat and you’ll see it’s for 1585 videos, which accounts for all of his videos ever since he launched the channel.

Median yearly wage in Croatia is €16K. This is a huge reason why he’s never really considered moving back to the UK as well as obtaining Croatian citizenship. He doesn’t plan on leaving. Those superchats alone account for two years of paying the bills. What he isn’t telling you is he has a high yield retirement/new home savings account that probably has a few hundred thousand in it. It’s currently unavailable to him without taking a penalty. What he’s whining about is his current monthly income which is not keeping up with the quality of life he is used to.

He also doesn’t have enough to take any holidays outside Croatia which is where he met a lot of his hookers. Probably is getting sick of seeing the same Zagreb ones as they are becoming too familiar for him.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Mr Hypocrisy strikes again. From a blog 5 May 2015 on JW Watch:

Stephen Lett admits income/expenditure shortfall as he reminds Witnesses to donate "valuable things" - JW Watch

If you are going to divulge a shortfall in funds, particularly with the aim of leveraging more donations (or “valuable things”) from a pool of supporters who are already lagging in this regard, the least you can do is treat them like adults and give some hard numbers. Nowhere in Lett’s rather patronizing, condescending comments is a single figure cited regarding the projected amounts of income and expenditure, and the shortfall between the two. Everything is left to the imagination (or, more accurately, gullibility) of the viewer.

So where are the numbers, Lloyd? Are you going to show the numbers and stand by your assertion in this article or are you no longer standing by it?

Interesting he uses the word "gullibility".

He goes on:

If Watchtower is low on funds, which I am thrilled to hear confirmation of straight from the horse’s mouth (in more than one sense), it is NOT the fault of any misunderstanding on the part of ordinary Witnesses. If anything, most Witnesses woefully underestimate the breathtaking amount of money Watchtower has pocketed from selling off Brooklyn, thanks in no small measure to the Governing Body’s total, deliberate and ongoing financial information black-out.
There is only one direction in which the finger of blame should be pointed respecting the Governing Body’s monetary woes, and that is towards them. If the Governing Body is spending more money than they are receiving from the kindness and generosity of Witnesses, who are already hard-pressed as a result of the insane and immoral prohibition on higher education, then by no stretch of the imagination can they be thought of as either faithful or discreet.

Per his own rationalisation, he's not treating any of his donors as adults, thinks they are gullible, and is himself guilty of an "ongoing financial information blackout".

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

All former JWs can exhale now. Boss Hogg's white Cadillac has been pulled out of Hazzard Creek. Our Dear Leader, James Lloyd Evans has had such an amazing response to his tin cup begging that he can return to activism "for now". His ~~cult followers~~ supporters have saved him from a weekend at home alone.

Patrons are up to 420 now and he had gained roughly 20 or so, plus the direct PayPal infusions. Hope it was all worth it, because that kind of urgent request tends to work only once. I'll file this one next to Oral Roberts telling his sheeple if he doesn't get 4 million dollars God will kill him.

Oral Roberts and God's 'Threat' - Los Angeles Times (latimes.com)

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

It's funny how he phrases it, "I don't see the channel recovering fast enough without needing to drastically scale down".

This stood out to me too. It's probably the key passage in the entire thread. He needs money now, but he acknowledges that he will be scaling back anyway. The money collected is just to keep him from leaving. Donors are really just funding his attempts to be a player in the Zagreb nightlife. The studio is most certainly gone, Tibor probably as well, and he's just going to cobble together a makeshift studio where he's living. It seems that he already has done that with the last few videos. Wasn't it roughly 6 months ago that he said he signed a lease on the studio space? Lease is up and he expected to be gaining Patrons by this time, not hovering round 400 for the past 2 months.

So he can recover the channel, he just needs to scale down paying Tibor for edits. It seems he has a solution staring him right in the face that doesn't require taking money out of someone else's pocket.
It's simply a matter of having no patience. Grifters gotta grift.

He's just conditioning his donors that his content will be fewer and far between and they won't see the familiar "Ramacro" studio behind him that they paid for. What this does is effectively make all the Patron goals utterly meaningless, as he's already paid at 380 Patrons to travel the world, meet with people for interviews and film what he calls documentaries. Further proof the donations first and foremost fund his lifestyle and the things he actually promised to Patrons are secondary concerns.

His heart is just not into this anymore and he's long since checked out. All it is about now is collecting what he can from this pity performance and plot his next move. I never heard him sound so defeated in that thread. But at 400+ patrons the grift still pays the bills and he's attempting to stem the bleeding and also work a lot less for it.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Las Malvinas son Argentinas

Then read his Facebook statement. I think you will find that it was actually Lloyd who said he had sex with sex workers in Thailand.

I’ve examined the 3 February FB statement. The relevant portions are 3b and 3c. 3b he relates that his “main reasons” for going to Thailand were really tourism related. If sex tourism were his main reason for going there, he would have gone to Bangkok. The implication is there that sex tourism was a factor in going, but not the main one.

In an attempt to swat away allegations of underage sex workers, he states for the record that all the people he met, “sex workers or otherwise”, they were all in their 20s. Impossible to know for sure, but whatever. Note the use of the plural - sex workers. He “met” more than one.

3c he addresses the notorious pics of him and the Thai girl. He states that she was also in her 20s and NOT a sex worker. So according to his own words, that makes at least 3 local girls he met - at least 2 sex workers and 1 non-sex worker who was sitting on his lap and taking flirty selfies with him.

Now go to the Andrew Gold interview - “I was dating a sex worker”. So there was another woman other than the one in the pics that WAS a sex worker and they were dating. Then there was at least one other sex worker he met but was not dating her.

Now he’s saying that he never paid for sex and only bought dinner for the sex worker he was dating. He has never said anything about the girl in the pic or the other sex workers.

Easiest way to look at this is he’s making shit up to disassociate himself from the Thai sex industry. We are meant to believe that a man who had been seeing sex workers every 2-3 months for 3-4 years was around these women who worked in the sex industry but not at any point paid these women for sex. I believe that in his effort to deflect attention away from the girl in the pics, he lied that she was not a sex worker he was exploiting and in his carelessness casually mentioned other sex workers, just not her. He got caught in his own lie and is doubling down by now claiming he only bought her dinner.